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returntothepit >> discuss >> The vegetarian asshole test by Hoser on Jul 9,2012 10:40am
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toggletoggle post by Hoser at Jul 9,2012 10:40am
The Vegetarian Asshole Test:

Here's a simple test to find out whether or not you're an asshole:



If you answered "NO," you are an asshole.

Not eating a piece of meat on your plate that you didn't order makes you a full-time asshole because you're effectively saying "yeah, I know it's too late to do anything about it, but I'm still going to let this animal's life die in vain." Not eating a steak that someone brought to you by accident won't bring the animal back to life, won't reduce the demand for meat and it won't make any difference to the meat industry's bottom line.

I was in a restaurant the other day when some career bitch sent her dish back because her seafood pasta had seafood in it. First of all, if you order a meat dish and then ask them to hold the meat, you're a jackass. Food is seasoned based on all of the ingredients, including the flavors the meat adds to the dish. So seafood pasta without the seafood tastes like bullshit. You're just eating a steamy coil of soggy pasta. BARF! Of course, when the dish came out with seafood, she made a big song and dance about how she's a vegetarian, making sure everyone within an earshot knew she was better than them. Then she made them take it back and make her another dish. Good call, turbo-bitch! Way to stand up for what you believe in. The world is better off because you sent back that dish. Fewer animals are now dead because you refused to eat those shrimp, right?

In fact, it doesn't violate any moral code to eat meat that other people ordered either, and it makes you look like a prick if you let other people's meat go to waste. If your friends order nachos and there's meat on it, not eating it makes you a pious dipshit. Do you think it makes any difference whether or not you put a piece of meat in your mouth that someone else ordered and killed anyway? As long as you didn't order it and had no intention to, eating meat isn't contradictory to your moral stance.


Vegetarians are, in general, negative people. They always assume the worst in humanity and animals alike. Who's to say that animals wouldn't gladly sacrifice themselves for our meals if they knew how happy it made us? After all, most vegetarians argue against speciesism, or the belief that we are different than animals. If that's the case, then shouldn't it stand that a certain percentage of animals would gladly sacrifice themselves for the greater good, like humans who volunteer for military service do? I know it's a little bit different because we don't eat our service men and women, but I've met a lot of troops and I know that most of them would not object to being eaten.

I eat animals because I love animals. I love everything about them. The way they taste, the way they smell when they're grilled. Even the way they look at me on my plate, all sizzly and saucy-eyed. Every time I see bacon, I feel like the pig fairy has visited me with a gift. A gift that is sliced from her back, smoked and cured with honey. It's like Mardi Gras in my mouth, with less puke.


But there's a good reason to eat animals if you love them: to bring them off the endangered species list. Thanks to our modern agrarian society, the once-endangered buffalo has made a comeback from a population dwindling in the thousands to no longer being on the list. If it weren't for people eating them, their population would have never made a comeback. That may seem counter-intuitive, but when there's a demand for a type of meat like buffalo, that demand is filled by enterprising young farmers who breed buffalo just for that reason. Since buffalo is some of the leanest meat you can buy, it's in high demand, and they're raised in larger quantities to put into my mouth.

Now I know that the anti-speciesist crowd argues that it's better for animals to not exist if their existence is filled with suffering. But rarely do these people ever stop to ask the question: why?

Why is all suffering bad?

I suffer every day. Sometimes out of boredom. After all, every single person who rots in a cubicle for 10 hours a day is suffering. The only difference between that type of suffering and an animal's, is that humans volunteer to suffer through things like work, school and marriage. That's because we know that with the exception of marriage, suffering sometimes has rewards. In fact, even animals choose to suffer sometimes: they give birth. If all you dipshits who have such a problem with suffering really believed what you said, you'd stop having children, find the nearest cop and ask him to shoot you in the face. That's the only sure way to end suffering.

But I don't think all suffering is bad, so long as you learn from it. If I were unfortunate enough to be a parent and saw my child about to put his hand on a hot stove, I'd sure as shit let him. Burning yourself on a stove is a great way to learn to not burn yourself on a stove. Any parent who doesn't let his or her child burn him or herself should have their children taken away for abuse. Not letting your kids suffer is one of the most serious forms of neglect today.

The type of suffering animals endure is also different from the type humans endure because animals are dumb. They keep no record of their suffering. There's no collective memory of their agony, and why should there be? Does it matter? Does an animal's suffering make any difference in this world? I'm not suggesting we pointlessly make animals suffer, but if they do in our pursuit for some greater good, like chili, will anything change by going out of our way to not make animals suffer? If you buy free-range eggs, do you really ever know for sure that animal who bore your eggs didn't suffer? Or are you just buying into a story to make yourself feel better? And how can you be sure that animal didn't suffer some form of mental anguish that you can't determine by visual inspection? If animals are the same as humans, then shouldn't it stand that just as many animals suffer from some form of autism, retardation or psychological disorder as humans do?



Buying cage-free or free-range eggs means you feel guilty about something, and you're too lazy to actually do something about it, like raising your own chickens to make sure they're properly cared for both physically and psychologically. Free-range eggs simply make you feel less guilty without actually having to exert any effort or be uncomfortable in any way. And that makes you morally dubious at best, and definitely not better than anyone who doesn't buy into your narrative or world view.

And while you're at it, if you don't eat someone's leftovers because it has meat in it, that makes you a bad person. When you choose to make a showy stand by not eating meat, even when your consumption makes absolutely no difference in the number animals killed, what you are saying is that your desire to be perceived as morally superior to your peers outweighs your actual goal of being morally superior.

Get over yourselves. Stop defining yourselves by your diet. You aren't what you don't eat.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Jul 9,2012 10:41am
Taken from Maddox....dude's funny as hell.



toggletoggle post by KEVORD  at Jul 9,2012 10:44am
Little known fact: All hobo's are vegetarians. They never order meat at restaurants.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at Jul 9,2012 11:00am
No smiles, only facepalms. Maddox, the posterbro of self-righteous ignoramuses worldwide.



toggletoggle post by posbleak   at Jul 9,2012 11:11am
Well this sure isn't from 1997!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 9,2012 1:43pm
tl;dr



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 9,2012 2:12pm
want to taste my asshole hoser?



toggletoggle post by ancient_masternli at Jul 9,2012 2:18pm
while I agree with the sentiment, I also believe everyone should be able to make their own choices without being criticized.

I was vegetarian/vegan for 9 years, but after reading The Vegetarian Myth by Lierre Keith, and doing labor work, I realised it is not a smart or healthy thing to do



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Jul 9,2012 2:37pm
Obviously an over-the-top critique of those who use their vegetarianism/veganism to reach a new level of obnoxiousness.

I will always eat meat because I enjoy hunting & fishing so much. Though, it is a good idea to limit your intake of animal products for many, many health reasons -- ie, eat a smaller steak with a giant salad, and you'll shit far, far better.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Jul 9,2012 3:29pm
Hey, it's just funny....that's all. And Rev, have you seen your skin and hair lately? You need to eat meat, you'll look and feel healthier.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 9,2012 3:38pm
funny, I have more muscle than I ever have before. but if you are offering to sperm in my hair...



toggletoggle post by xgodzillax  at Jul 9,2012 3:44pm



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Jul 9,2012 5:13pm
ITT: Hoser was molested by a salad.



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Jul 9,2012 5:23pm
Maddox is often hilarious, but his fanbase is the fucking worst. Most people really will do anything that anyone else tells them to and his fans actually do worship that guy as some sort of god amongst mortals.



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Jul 9,2012 5:23pm
largefreakatzero said[orig][quote]
it is a good idea to limit your intake of animal products for many, many health reasons -- ie, eat a smaller steak with a giant salad, and you'll shit far, far better.


I have been working on this sort of diet lately, simply because it's the facts.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Jul 9,2012 6:07pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
funny, I have more muscle than I ever have before. but if you are offering to sperm in my hair...


But you look so pallid, and are you losing hair? This isn't genetics...it's broccoli overload.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Jul 9,2012 6:10pm
Pretty soon you'll look like this.....minus the 101 mph fastball.






toggletoggle post by Crap Pyramid at Jul 9,2012 6:14pm
We will fucking challenge and beat Maddox in a riff off using purple amps with pink polka dots after we smoke him under the table and then put a bong up his faggot ass and smoke blunts from his eye sockets goddamn



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Jul 9,2012 8:17pm
Harshest yet....Bravo!



toggletoggle post by yummy at Jul 9,2012 9:34pm
Who has a Randy Johnson?



toggletoggle post by quintessence_nli at Jul 10,2012 3:00am
ancient_masternli said[orig][quote]
while I agree with the sentiment, I also believe everyone should be able to make their own choices without being criticized.

I was vegetarian/vegan for 9 years, but after reading The Vegetarian Myth by Lierre Keith, and doing labor work, I realised it is not a smart or healthy thing to do


Lol that authors "facts"are pretty sketchy , not to mention she claimed to be a vegan for 20 years but would binge on dairy and eggs "every chance she got" bitch is a total fraud.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jul 10,2012 9:07am
Rob Dibble or GTFO



toggletoggle post by yummy at Jul 10,2012 10:09am
Tom Seaver braw



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Jul 10,2012 11:55am
wall of John Joseph GO







toggletoggle post by Mutis  at Jul 10,2012 7:07pm
Maddox was amazing. He's like Cracked.com without the fact checking.

Little known fact: Most real vegans understand that the "meat is murder" slogan is bullshit. I fully support hunting, for example, and I would hunt and fish if I didn't mind the health risks and pollutants.

quintessence_nli said[orig][quote]
ancient_masternli said[orig][quote]
while I agree with the sentiment, I also believe everyone should be able to make their own choices without being criticized.

I was vegetarian/vegan for 9 years, but after reading The Vegetarian Myth by Lierre Keith, and doing labor work, I realised it is not a smart or healthy thing to do


Lol that authors "facts"are pretty sketchy , not to mention she claimed to be a vegan for 20 years but would binge on dairy and eggs "every chance she got" bitch is a total fraud.


The book was a clever sales pitch, condemning agriculture—it's millions in sales are from phony environmentalists seeking justification and reassurance. But like Maddox, she cherry picks around the fact that most of the world's agriculture is animal feed, and at our current rate, we'll run out of arable land in 50 years. You're not going to be able to afford to eat meat and dairy by default, so enjoy it while you can. The government can only subsidize it so much.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Jul 11,2012 9:37am
What would vegetarians do if this happened?

GREAT series BTW....


bennyhillifier

Watch the whole series....7 parts all free on youtube. Awesome.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Jul 11,2012 9:41am
Just an FYI....they come to harvest life because Earth contains 2 compounds that are not found anywhere else in the Universe as we know it. Chlorophyll and Hydrogen. Really neat series.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Jul 11,2012 1:49pm




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