Im so pissed at this cocksucker. I cant afford gas... motherfuck opec motherfuck George W. and motherfuck everyone that has enough money to buy a hummer and fill their tanks as many times as they want a week. I spent almost 90 dollars on gas last week... thats about 65 more than I should have to.

ya fuck this shit, im running for president!

Ill vote for you

i'd vote for myself

first order of business, changing the national anthem from "star spangled banner" to "ace of spades"

no way... the national anthem should be "Fear No Evil" by Grim Reaper

OPEC is gay. i hope we bomb the hell out of those 11 countries and take all thier oil. Bush is lame too.

hahahahahaha matt should be a general

if you are so worried about gas... then get a hybrid car or a volkswagen rabbit... 500 miles to the tank. (the Rabbit is a geo metro sized car that is diesel) otherwise, quit bitching about it.

my family owned a rabbit at one point. Compact, yet reliable.

we are part of OPEC now,
since we control iraq who is part of OPEC.

TheGreatSpaldino said:

If only I could afford such a vehicle like that, and dont want to compromise my jeep for a shitty little honda or something or a volkswagon rabbit. It makes sense since the roads are shit during the winter. diesel is goign up as week speak.
So I suppose your cool with the gas prices, other people cant afford to waste their money on gas

I'm not liking gwb even more now...
since I just read about the future!

GW Sucks Shit Keep sending jobs to india, and creating 30000000 new wal mart jobs, F wal mart as well

i couldnt shout loud enough to show how much i hate bush. it has nothing to do with gas prices, it has to do with the fact that he's an amazingly horrible human being.

words cannot describe my contempt.

guilty of treason.................

the president & the war have nuthing to do with the high gas prices

this happens every year at this time no matter who is in the white house

no politician would ever stand up against the oil industry it would be political suicide

it funny you all get upset at gas being almost $2 when MILK is almost $4

but we dont fill our cars up with 20 gallons of milk now do we? ;)

anyways... a few years ago gas was $4.50 in tokyo. so quit complaining about the gas prices when it was well over 2 times worse somewhere else. (now you see why jap cars are all about the small engines and why they make cars that only have 60-90 horsepower...)

no but milk is in a shit ton of other things that now are priced higher due to the high price of milk

gas is considered a luxury by our goverment

so how is it GWB's fault that the WORLD price for a barrel of gas is at its highest ever getting close to $40 a barrel.

not to mention the shortage of gas. we have plenty of oil. we just have a lack of oil refineries. we can only make so much gas at a time which leads to shortages and price increases.

there have been sereral attempts to build new refineries but they keep getting denied due to environmental issues and the fact that they cost billions to produce. the government is pushing all car companies to do away with gas powered cars in the next 10 to 15 years meaning that no entrepeneur would invest the $$$$ into a refinery that will largely be out of business in 10 years.

the issue of sending jobs overseas and opening up wal marts to sell their cheap foreign produced products is one of the biggest reasons our country is screwed.(good call burial666)not to mention his tax policies for the rich and big business

bush just sucks
ANYONE BUT BUSH 2004

what would Varg Say? "I have to be negative to a civilization which rapes Mother Earth and murders our human races, which tortures animals and destroys everything that is good, pure, natural, healthy and clean."
Somebody give me a reason to vote for Bush. Joe? Morkul?

You guys hate George Bush??? and i thought i was the only one.....

I am the only one who doesn't

yah where's Joe on this one?

Iren_the_Viking said:

hahahha, I'd vote for "No Voices in the Sky".

Vote for Bush because Donald Rumsfeld is a swell guy

Ya blame everyone else for your problems......it's his fault....Alan Greenspan....he's Jewish...don't blame him....moron. He only controls the general economy of the country....please...stay misinformed...the Democrats count on idiots like you for votes....good job.....Go Kerry...Nazi...be a proud Socialist....YAY.....Go Marx, Go Stalin, Go Lenin, Go Ho Chi Mihn, Go Shroeder, YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA....Socialism rules...get out of the country please....you're polluting our youth....YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYa.

Think twice before you speak....commie.

alan greenspan might be in charge of the FED but that does not mean he controls the general economy all it means is he has slight pull in the setting of interest rates which are slated to be going up for the first time since 9/11 not to mention the economy would have been realy screwd if the feds never lowered interest rates

this is officially the "irrational thoughts thread".... way to sound stupid

The Liberals on here who are all hate Bush, really need to step back look at Kerry and actually listen to this double-talking idiot. I don't think you've even heard a word this man has said. Oh, if you are going to vote for Kerry, do me a favor and try and convince me. You've all got alot to say against Bush, so let's hear the upside to Kerry, oh what's that you don't know where he stands. Well guess what? Neither do the Democrats, nor does Kerry himself. Once again, un-educated arguments against the very country you live in. If you don't like it, SHUT-UP and get the fuck out. We don't need you and your fucking whining. Bush is not the almighty solution like I have stated before, but when it comes to the lesser of two evils, you've got to go with Bush, or we are all going to be speaking Arabic in about 5 years. If that is what you want and your kids to look forward to, then I'd say you are on the right track.

baneofexistence said:

wasn't it this time in 99 that I was paying $.91 a gallon?

I had bush because he's a moron with a hand up his ass making him talk.

Way to make an intellegient argument. Dim-Wit.

morkul, you of all people should know, we will be speaking spanish in 5 years.

kerry's got an amazing thing that bush doesn't..
he's not bush.

Joe/NotCommon said:

completely, as we all know..
though ashcroft lost his senate seat to a guy that died in a plane crash a month before the election.
hooray for second best.
lisa simpson? oats?

Ok but still, tell me what is so great about Kerry that has you convinced to vote for him? And as far as Spanish goes, I am good to go then. This is the southwest, if you don't speak a little you are lost.

there is nothing great about kerry at all.
honestly, I hate them all.

I'm guessing, you don't like bush, but he's your better choice.
I don't like kerry, but he's my better choice.
just like I didn't like gore, but I voted for them cause they were my better choice. maybe you and I should do what I did for the primary... no the vote.

I ain't going to vote either. There is no one out there for the common working schmo. They're cutting overtime pretty soon for all Americans, not to mention according to Triple AAA, there will be another gas hike before summertime. How much is gas there right now? It is up to almost 2.50 for the good shit and 2.10 or 2.15 for the shit. The country is out of hand completely, but I would still rather live here than anywhere else. Unless I could turn back time, then I'd be a Barbarian and just rape and pillage etc, etc.. Battles, man I got to get a time machine.....

you're saying that the country is out of hand, yet you still want to keep the current president in office? the same president who dodges wars but has no problem sending others out there? the same president who tries to flex his US muscles and invades countries he shouldnt? the same president who lied about the cost of medicade to the country? the same president who cut taxes to fatten the wallets of the rich and leaves school districts like mine to cut teachers? fuck bush

you're right that kerry hasnt really taken a stand on anything...but what's wrong with listening to both sides of an argument and then coming to the best decision? he weighs his options and then makes the best decision possible. kerry may not be the greatest candidate out there, but he can't be any worse than bush.

Sounds like alot of Liberal teachers have gotten into your mind and have told you what to think and feel. Kerry hasn't weighed a god damn thing. He is a weasel, a liar and an america hater. He lied about his medals, he lied about how he got them, and he lied about his participation in illegal village killings in Vietnam. There was no enemy fire. The wounds he sustained were from there own guns on the boat, and the guy he saved, he knocked in the damn water when he swung the boat around. Oh and if he so great to you, ask him if he owns an SUV, then listen to his interview with the FORD guys back in February when he told them, that was all he owned and would always want an SUV over a car. Flexing our US muscles. God Damn you sound like a fuckin piss-ant, once again I will say it, IF YOU DON'T LIKE AMERICA, FUCKIN LEAVE. So you are saying that revenge was not in order for the 3000 people who lost their lives on 9/11? Have you seen the pictures of these people jumping to their deaths as opposed to being burnd alive? Well I have, and if that doesn't make you mad, then you are a winy human who believes purely in "Talking our Problems Out". that is not always the answer, and this incident called for retaliation on all fronts. Whether it is Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Fallujah, we need to weed these people out and destroy them before they destroy us. That is War.

damn morkul, for a spick lover you sound like a racist ignorant idiot

I WILL FUCKIN KILL YOU! I WILL GET ON A PLANE AND FUCK YOU UP! YOU WORTHLESS RACIST PIECE OF IGNORANT SHIT. LOG ON,SAY IT WITH YOUR REAL NAME. BE A MAN.

::SHOUT::

Oh and I'm a "spic". Go lick a nad... honkey!

Fuck You! I don't know you from Adam. I am trying to have a decent on-line conversation and you chime in with some senseless, idiotic remark. Ok, so you have opinion, cool, back it up and let's talk, butcalling me that, man I am married to a Mexican, so if you think I am not going to get pissed you are sadly mistaken. This is a topic I feel strongly about and if people like yourself choose to engage me in this topic have enough respect to talk intellegiently.

morkul, your policy of shut the hell up if you dont like it and get out does not seem very democratic to me. i find it ridiculous that in america, or any "democratic" country, people should be repressed and not aloud to voice his opinion. i have not seen a single person say that john kerry is a great candidate, most just say he is the lesser of two evils.

by us weeding out terrorists around the globe and murdering them, what will the result be? my guess is another generation of people that dispise US foreign policy and may plot to attack like the people before them. maybe a better policy is to try to understand why these people feel the way they do and then try to create an environment where terrorists attacks wont happen, or arent as likely. carpet bombing cities and killing tens of thousands of people isnt destroying the root of the problem.

I am not saying don't voice your opinion, but to do it so people undertand why you feel that way, not, oh he sucks cause, whatever.
These people though, hate us because we are free, free to do whatever we like. Free to read whatever we like, Free to listen to whatever we like, and they can't stand that. They want an entire world solely of Muslim beliefs. Currently at this time in the world there are 15 nations going at it with different muslim organizations. Someone needs to hear the voice of the people and listen and take notes, but I don't see it happening anytime soon. Look at what we have to choose from.

Joe/NotCommon said:

I'm with you Joe.

the unfortunate fact is that we are the USA...
that works for and against us majorly.

we are held up to a totally different moral code than the people we are fighting against. Personally, I think we need our own interpol. carpet bombing playgrounds isn't going to get us anywhere. I think we need stealth assassins to go in and kill people we don't like.

Interesting concept, but I think that is what the Seals were original designed for, besides rescue? Might be wrong.

the US has laws that say we can't go off assassinating people.
too bad we don't have beams from the sky like in akira or xfiles.

i think everyone who posted on this thread should discuss this over a mocha triple quadruple espresso double cream caramel latte at starbucks while wearing scarfs and playing bongos. thatll solve everything

hope everyone plans on voting

Cultural Relevance is the key theme here. I honestly don't understand why people involved with this music or any underground music would choose to vote for Bush, it seems quite contrary to the intentions of the art and the fans. If you can't fathom why people hate Americans, you've been sheltered or brainwashed if you will, so being hostile towards the truth becomes a potent form of denial which breeds these situations. If everyone hates Nazis and Socialists so much, you must except the fact that they are party dedicated to Nationalistic advancement to the common working man. I would love to move to Scandinavia, it's the best place to live on earth and has been for several years strong. I doubt Bush will win, to many of his supporters are blinded by impulse rather than repression felt by the popular vote which dominated his vote in 2000. If only his brother wasn't the governor of FL and if Kathrin Harris wasn't a bimbo! I'd vote for Cheney before Bush.

I was waiting for you to chime in. Where you been man? How's the band going.? How is that drummer coming along.?

http://www.johnkerryisadouchebagbutimvotingforhimanyway.com/
i've only just skimmed thru this( gotta get to my night job),
but it seemed interesting, no matter which side you're on. enjoy!

morkul said:

Who?

BSV. What's up man?

same ol shit different pile. just got off work and I'm about to finish up on some final papers for school, I have to interview my pop about the old days for one. Terence dropped off our master and the cd layout at the duplication "plant" the other day, should be out by the end of may. Seth is Seth as usual. I don't know what you mean by him comming along, oh well. Hey do you go to that Gather of the Sick Fest in NM? Have you heard about it, any good?

No I didn't go to the fest, but we just saw the MA and Suffo show. Off the hook. I just meant how is he coming along.? I 've let some death heads here it out here and they all said the same thing. E-mail me if you want and I'll tell you. I don't want to be blabbing away on here about personal band shit etc. It's morkul@aol.com. Even just to chat Bro.

morkul--"Sounds like alot of Liberal teachers have gotten into your mind and have told you what to think and feel. Kerry hasn't weighed a god damn thing. He is a weasel, a liar and an america hater. He lied about his medals, he lied about how he got them, and he lied about his participation in illegal village killings in Vietnam. There was no enemy fire. The wounds he sustained were from there own guns on the boat, and the guy he saved, he knocked in the damn water when he swung the boat around. Oh and if he so great to you, ask him if he owns an SUV, then listen to his interview with the FORD guys back in February when he told them, that was all he owned and would always want an SUV over a car. Flexing our US muscles. God Damn you sound like a fuckin piss-ant, once again I will say it, IF YOU DON'T LIKE AMERICA, FUCKIN LEAVE. So you are saying that revenge was not in order for the 3000 people who lost their lives on 9/11? Have you seen the pictures of these people jumping to their deaths as opposed to being burnd alive? Well I have, and if that doesn't make you mad, then you are a winy human who believes purely in "Talking our Problems Out". that is not always the answer, and this incident called for retaliation on all fronts. Whether it is Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Fallujah, we need to weed these people out and destroy them before they destroy us. That is War."

what a weak rebuttal. first off, explain how kerry is an american hater? is it because he thinks that america has done stupid/shitty things like the Vietnam war? and your 'facts' of kerry lying all involve his time at war, or owning a car...i don't know what he did over in 'nam, and personally i don't care...it was 30 years ago. and what does his lying about cars have to do anything? does it prove that he lies about stupid things like what kind of car he likes? he's def. gonna be a shitty prez then. and america does flex their muscles, what right does america have to put soldiers up in mecca and other middle eastern holy lands? you wonder why foreigners hate americans...it's shitheads like you that don't realize that america tries way to hard to be the parent country to the rest of the world. george bush is the most protested leader ever, and i'm sure it has nothing to do w/ the fact that he attacks whole countries for crimes commited by terrorists. terrorists have no affiliation with the governments of the countries they live in. so bombing the whole country solves nothing. i'm not against war at all, but i am against people abusing the power to declare war.

to say 'if you hate america so much then leave' argument is retarded here. if i hated it that much i would, there's nothing wrong with trying to better your country, not sit there and let a shithead of a president run it into the ground.

I am done Arguing about this. Think what you will about me or whatever.

fuck it, im moving to norway with abbath!!!\m/

that's what i thought

shit on that, Valhalla here i come!

Morkul, I sent you 2 emails and both were returned to me, saying your address isn't found. email me at odiumvile@hotmail.com

JellyFish said:


fuck ya the north winds are calling my name! soon...very soon...
i always find it interesting that these threads about bush or the war always have the most heated debates it's too bad that most of the time all the other threads can't be like this
bush sucks, but i'm stilling gonna vote for him, so everyone is gonna have to deal with it, if ya don't like it then do something about it

MORKUL... you know your political ideals make me laugh. it's funny how we can even get along. your outlashes are full of holes. i'd tell you this to your face, but you're too wound up in what Michael Savage says to believe or listen to anyone else. I don't think that "if you don't like it, get out" is a good statement. please correct me if i'm wrong, but not a soul has stated that they dislike being in America. what the dissenters on the board have problems with is the politics of america. it's just like a job... you can have the best job ever, but there's still bad politics involved. america can be the best country, but there's bad politics involved. also, i love how you like to bring up the horrible tragedy of 9/11. like i said, i don't think political beliefs would change someone's emotional response to pictures of people jumping out of the towers. i believe that anyone on this board would be appalled at the sight and would be saddened, liberal and conservative, democrat and republican alike. you're also angered at the fact that the news channels won't show video of the appalling acts done to americans. i think this is for the best. anyone can get on the internet and see them, so why bother showing them on the news where people may be incited to hate crimes. there are plenty of middle eastern people in this country that love america and they shouldn't have to fear being beaten alive for something someone who happened to look like them did. but of course, you would be out there on the streets hunting these people down just to feel better about what some scum bags did to an american. hey, isn't that why we're at war? to get back at these scum bags? but, well, these are just my opinions.

oh and MORKUL, thanks for clarifying for me just now that "they're all america bashers." can you point out exactly where people here are bashing america??? like i said, it's just the politics we're all a little pissed about. go give michael savage a blow job.

hahaha,
number one bush is a shame to our country
number two kerry is a worthless piece of shit
number three I never associated bush with the gas crisis
number four you guys are bitching just as much about things as I am therefore it gives me a right to bitch about gas prices
number five were turning into an imperialistic country, we take what we want and ignore the Un,
number six this post has gone from something simple to something rediculously in depth, it was merely an intent to sort out who hates bush, in this case it seems as though most everybody does
number seven I dont feel strongly enough to give a fuck and have a somewhat intelegent conversation about this becuase theres no winning here, its all just bitching and whining and thats why this post was started to begin with

well, i guess some people feel strongly about their country falling apart and seeing other people not care

MyDeadDoll said:


i like what you are saying dollface...
as a non american i haven't really posted much in here, but i like what you said

but you don't really even have to be an american to understand the crap that's going on or even to be affected by it. right?

i was thinking of something interesting last night... it's funny how MORKUL has such views being married to a mexican chick who's family came here illegaly years and years and years ago. yeah, that's the past and this is now, but i think it should affect some attitudes. isn't biracial marriage kinda a liberal thing? and if we have biracial kids, i mean, c'mon. and isn't it the liberals that want kids to be able to keep speaking spanish in schools? i go either way on this issue 'cos i think being bilingual is great and it helps with education as in college and high school, it is required that you learn another language. but at the same time, kids that speak only spanish need to be immersed into an english classroom... but anyway... it just bugsme for someone to hate liberals so much yet also be wrapped up in a sort of liberal culture. does that make sense?

yeah, you make sense

I am biracial!

The_ExhumeD said:

dude, you started this thread because of bush and gas prices!!!!!!!!!!! who the fuck are you trying to kid? read your first post.

Donald Rumsfeld for president with Satan as his vice president

Kalopsia said:

first off it says mothercuck opec, then motherfuck george bush I was stating that I wasnt blaiming him for the prices becuase I wasnt I was just saying that I hated him

If it wasn't for George Bush attacking Iraq, our soldier's would never have been able to humiliate, torture and rape the Iraqi people.
I don't get why you all hate him.

Terence said:

how many times do I have to tell you,
gypsy+gypsy is not bi-racial.
though the kids from cali call you bi-radical.
and esquire magazine just calls you bi.

I was waiting to see how long it would take aaron to jump on the terence bandwagon...

I really don't have much reason to hate George Bush, since I'm a carless teenager in a modernized middle-of-nowhere, but I do nonetheless.

the_reverend-"and esquire magazine just calls you bi."

haha, that was very clever rev

Rumsfeld is kinda swell in terms of personality. i don't like people named Donald though.

Bush is sucky, but no where near as sucky as Kerry. I wouldn't vote for anyone in favor of 'culturally enriching' our society by encouraging mexicans to make up the majority of the population in ten years, force spannish be manditory in schools, raising taxes, and sucking an unreasonable amount of cock.
Voting for retarded liberal douche bags like Kerry sets the country up for an almost definate knock down (for examples see the Clinton presidency and his imigration polacy and his attempts at disarming Iraq) Everything Bush did can be explained (weather or not you believe or are a skeptic of the explanation) If you want to blame someone for this war blame the jews. They are one of the single most extreme reasons we are hated in th middle east and other parts of the world. If lefties like Clinton and Kerry weren't around, we wouldn't have sent thousands of jews to a paradise with 28 billion dollars in the middle of a marsh of people that hate them.

Remember: a vote for a democrat is a personality flaw.

Devin said:

You might care when the Draft goes into effect again...


I am not a GYPSY!
fine, maybe I am.

a cd is coming out soon...bands against bush
social d, jello biafra and a lot more

oh Christ will you morons quit it with your pissy whining about the man that the general population of your country voted into office?!?! If you want to blame anyone for all of your woes, blame the rest of the ENTIRE country who voted him into office. And get ready to botch and piss and moan and whine some more, cuz $100 says that he wins this election too. It almost makes me cringe to think that I have to listen to you boneheads whine for another 4 years. Suicide is definitely the answer here.....Instead of "Shouting out if you hate Bush", just pop a bullet in your heads and stop wasting my valuable oxygen.

oh lunch walker, you have so much to learn

tee-hee

ahahahah sweet!
but lita you're forgetting something...there's not such thing as dumb robots!
"Is our children learning"