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returntothepit >> discuss >> Vape-idge / Vaporizers by corpus_caustics on Sep 14,2010 11:24am
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toggletoggle post by corpus_caustics at Sep 14,2010 11:24am
This is a repost--but what are some excellent brands out there. Been doing the green thing in every way possible for 15 years and my lady and I are thinking about doing what we should have done years ago.

Brands, recomendations, /r/, etc.




toggletoggle post by boxxy at Sep 14,2010 11:26am
vapor brothers. cheap, reliable, easy to use..

Volcano - The Lamborghini of vapes. Nuff said.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Sep 14,2010 11:26am
Volcano. If you're willing to part with 500 bucks.



toggletoggle post by josh_hates_you  at Sep 14,2010 11:29am
only supervapezilla is real.



toggletoggle post by boxxy at Sep 14,2010 11:29am
supervapezilla? I like it.



toggletoggle post by Elihhcb at Sep 14,2010 11:32am
They make some cool portable ones now. Look like walki talkis



toggletoggle post by ArrowHeadNLI at Sep 14,2010 11:32am
Smoking is the easy part. I simply wish for a much easier method of acquirement that doesn't involve days of phone calls and driving to zanzibar.



toggletoggle post by corpus_caustics at Sep 14,2010 11:33am
Any feedback about durability and so on?

Haven't seen the volcano but it doesn't sound discrete or small.We do have a lil one who runs amuck-as-fuck. So..

And 500? Split between 2 people, it aint that bad, but the 90's DM dood in me would say "get 500 worth of heads and roll it all up." The new age dood is all like, "health, efficiency, and chemestry."

Weigh in..



toggletoggle post by boxxy at Sep 14,2010 11:33am
you just don't live near the right people.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Sep 14,2010 11:36am
boxxy said[orig][quote]
vapor brothers. cheap, reliable, easy to use..


haven't used mine in a while but i love it. great investment.



toggletoggle post by corpus_caustics at Sep 14,2010 11:36am
Sadly, arrowhead does have optimum geographics for procurement- if I recall. Alas, in the process of collecting a bunch of mediocre lefthanders--he sacrificed all 'lasting' connections.

J/K



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Sep 14,2010 11:37am
Volcano is the size of a toaster, bu looks like a Madonna boob in the 80s. It is German engineered and is very precise and effecient. It shoots the vapor into plastic bags. But at the same time, you can save yourself 250 bucks and get a much cheaper vape.



toggletoggle post by ArrowHeadNLI at Sep 14,2010 11:37am
boxxy said[orig][quote]
you just don't live near the right people.


Completely true. Also, I am too much of a cave dwelling hermit.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Sep 14,2010 11:38am edited Sep 14,2010 11:40am
Arrowhead, wareham and Plymouth are filled with plants.



toggletoggle post by ArrowHeadNLI at Sep 14,2010 11:41am
corpus_caustics said[orig][quote]
Sadly, arrowhead does have optimum geographics for procurement- if I recall. Alas, in the process of collecting a bunch of mediocre lefthanders--he sacrificed all 'lasting' connections.

J/K


I live further south than Rob, in Plymouth. Good area, but I know all of two people around here, one just stopped selling and the other involves driving and meeting in sketch places.

As for severing ties, I DID ditch out on Rob, if that's what you mean. I wouldn't call him a connection, as he didn't smoke. We just rubbed each other the wrong way, and the whole thing with your album recording was an absolute embarrassment to me.

I'd say the single coolest day I spent at that house was the day you and the band were there recording. Green buds, Jackson guitars, I think I was jamming with the wrong people all along. ;)



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Sep 14,2010 11:43am
lol Rob.

HIT ME UP. I LIVE 5 MINUTES AWAY



toggletoggle post by boxxy at Sep 14,2010 11:43am
i recommend vapor brothers. Here's why:

-you get it for 125
-you get that other 375 in headies instead.
-you set it on mid-low level, and you don't get ALL of the THC from the bud, but you get to roll it after it's vaped and still get high. (with the volcano the bud is basically worthless after you vape it.)
-or set it on high, get all of the THC from the plant, but burn the plant a little bit. This way gives you hits that are comparably to volcano ones, they just take longer to inhale.
-the only breakable part is a 15 hose with glass ends. (it's called a whip)
-The functionality of the devices are very similar, the costs are NOT. Use your judgment to see if the differences are worth 375.



toggletoggle post by ArrowHeadNLI at Sep 14,2010 11:47am
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
lol Rob.

HIT ME UP. I LIVE 5 MINUTES AWAY


You have greenies? Get your ass over here!


Question about the vaporizers: What is it like hitting one? Can it still cause you to cough/snarph, etc... or is it basically breathing air? I like feeling like you are actually sucking something in, but since quitting the cigarettes I couch and choke a lot more when smoking the reefer.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Sep 14,2010 11:49am
There's a volcano here, check it out sometime. It's air.



toggletoggle post by boxxy at Sep 14,2010 11:50am
it definitely can still make you cough. Have you ever hit a keefe hit? Sometimes if you take too big a one it can make you cough MORE than normal weed hits, the tingle in the back of the throat is from the THC.



toggletoggle post by ArrowHeadNLI at Sep 14,2010 11:51am
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
lol Rob.


Yeah. That's how I met Corpus. Rob came to me and said a good band wanted to record with him, should he do it. I said NO, he was too used to direct recording and lacked the experience to do it well. He took the job anyway and asked me to help, I again said NO I didn't think we were able to do it well and put in the necessary time and effort. Next I know, I'm getting dragged over there and he's telling EVERYONE I was helping him record the Dysentery album. I'm sure everyone knows how that ended. To this day I still feel awful about how much of the band's time and effort got wasted.




toggletoggle post by boxxy at Sep 14,2010 11:51am
and yeah, i've coughed from a volcano too. The hits WILL be easier to smoke than reg weeds, unless you become a hero and PILE it in there, at which point, it could make you cough a little. It's not the gross tar cough like weeds, it's more of a tickle tickle cough from the THC.



toggletoggle post by ArrowHeadNLI at Sep 14,2010 11:51am
boxxy said[orig][quote]
it definitely can still make you cough. Have you ever hit a keefe hit? Sometimes if you take too big a one it can make you cough MORE than normal weed hits, the tingle in the back of the throat is from the THC.


YES. If there's keef on the bowl I am 100% guaranteed to cough like crazy.




toggletoggle post by boxxy at Sep 14,2010 11:52am
yeah yeah. and then guaranteed to be high as shit. WOOOOO HOOOOO



toggletoggle post by ArrowHeadNLI at Sep 14,2010 11:54am
Yup. "ow! Ow! My nose is burning. Ooh, my poor sinuses! ...... hmmm, we got any cookies?"



toggletoggle post by boxxy at Sep 14,2010 11:58am
haha, yup. vapes are very similar, although with keefe you're still burning it, so it's a little harsher than the vape.



toggletoggle post by corpus_caustics at Sep 14,2010 11:58am
Great stuff guys thank you.

And yes Arrow, the one day that you were there was the one tolerable day of recording with Grillo-pad. The album sucks but anyone who saw us live, knew what we offered. Anyone who has seen Dysentery lately, knows--they are the sultans of shlaam, "irrregaaaadless."



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Sep 14,2010 12:01pm
How about Descent? Is that album getting released? Haven't talked to him in almost 2 years. I think he sold that house but I don't know.



toggletoggle post by corpus_caustics at Sep 14,2010 12:16pm
That house had a crack in the form as big as big as Grillbobaggins himself. Structual integrity is fail.
+
He had a couple "jingbao" crack head ladies there paying rent as well.

Alas, when your a half ass shitbag contractor (a theif and a liar) with a two ring circus going on at home, your likely to experience a financial lapse.

Summation: Never record music with an employee of King Richard's fair.



toggletoggle post by ArrowHeadNLI at Sep 14,2010 12:18pm
There's new tunes on the Descent myspace last I checked. I have no idea what he's doing lately though. After he tried to leave me a few voicemails I never heard from him again. I stress, I was the douche for up and ditching on the guy like that, he was nothing but nice to me. I guess certain personalities just don't get along together.




toggletoggle post by ArrowHeadNLI at Sep 14,2010 12:20pm
corpus_caustics said[orig][quote]

Summation: Never record music with an employee of King Richard's fair.



Oh jeeze, hahaha. Literally tears coming out of my eyes. lol.



Whatever happened to Brandon? He was chill guy, did he ever get fed up and quit Descent as well?



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Sep 14,2010 12:23pm
Yes



toggletoggle post by ArrowHeadNLI at Sep 14,2010 12:30pm
His Rickenbass was absolutely drool worthy. Sounded awesome too.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Sep 14,2010 12:31pm
Don't know what he's up to. Last time I saw him he was at the Kingston Mall but I didn't say anything



toggletoggle post by ArrowHeadNLI at Sep 14,2010 12:43pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Don't know what he's up to. Last time I saw him he was at the Kingston Mall but I didn't say anything



Kingston mall.... was that the thing that used to be attached to Best Buy? I forgot it existed.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Sep 14,2010 12:49pm
They got a newbury comics there! A shifty one, but still newbs.



toggletoggle post by blue  at Sep 14,2010 1:59pm
I highly recommend vapor brothers and silver surfer.



toggletoggle post by sever at Sep 14,2010 2:01pm
There's a vaporizer that's sold at a headshop in Leominster called the Dragons Leyer. It's 80 bucks, and it's essentially a metal bowl with a screw-on top that contains some sort of manufactured rock type thing. You put bud in the bowl, put the top on, and use the lighter to heat up the rock. The rock transfers heat to the bud and it gets vaped. It's pretty sweet.



toggletoggle post by boxxy at Sep 14,2010 2:30pm
the cheap vapor bros ones are right around 125, and they rule.



toggletoggle post by ArrowHeadNLI at Sep 14,2010 2:36pm
So you get a lot more mileage out of your bud with a vaporizer, or just more potent? Or is it just a healthier way to do things?



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Sep 14,2010 2:42pm
All three.



toggletoggle post by boxxy at Sep 14,2010 2:46pm
I wouldn't say that the bud is more potent, i would say that statement 1 and 3 were both true, and that a vape makes it possible for someone to take a bigger hit than they would otherwise be able to handle. Which WOULD be more potent, but only cuz your lungs can vape more than they can smoke.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Sep 14,2010 3:24pm
my only issue with vaporizers is that it feels like the high comes on really strong and doesn't stay for long. whereas with smoking it's vice versa.



toggletoggle post by Alexecutioner at Sep 14,2010 3:25pm
blue said[orig][quote]
I highly recommend vapor brothers and silver surfer.


i was surprised no one mentioned the silver surfer sooner in this thread, i hear it is the end all be all of vapes, but alas, ive never used one.

anyone who has care to share? i know blue has



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Sep 14,2010 3:26pm
We used one backstage with Cephallic Carnage, ¿no? If so, that was excellent. Cool design too.



toggletoggle post by corpus_caustics at Sep 14,2010 3:30pm
Its not just about "big hits," and in turn, greater volumes of smoke. Its also about potency. Some units can very precisely control the amount of THC yielded with various "burning" points. A friend of mine used to burn all types of good nugget in his vape and then would cook with his vaped greens. I had some very wild cornbread one morning camping in the whites. Thanks for all the help dudes.



toggletoggle post by Alexecutioner at Sep 14,2010 3:30pm
ive never liked vaporizers, everyone swears by the volcano but i found that i still wanted to fucking smoke a bowl after putting a ridiculous amount into the volcano. plus part of me feels that if you fill up one of those bags, that some of it is stale and useless by the time it enters into your lungs. i know that happens with smoke but dunno if the same rules apply to vapors.

i hear the silver surfer is much better tho, ive been wanting to try one before i buy one tho.

anyone actually own one?



toggletoggle post by corpus_caustics at Sep 14,2010 3:32pm
Yeah, the SS unit seems nice.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Sep 14,2010 3:34pm
Nah. It's a killer combo if you do rips, then finish off with a fresh bag. The vapor can last for a while in the bag, assuming the molecules don't start sticking to it. Ive done a bag half an hour after it was vaped and it was fine.



toggletoggle post by boxxy at Sep 14,2010 3:41pm
Corp- that's why i said i like vap bros, cuz you can decide how high to turn it, and still cook with/smoke the herb.



toggletoggle post by cav nli at Sep 14,2010 5:31pm
SERIOUSLY, WHERE ARE ALL THE HEADY NUGS AT?!??! the past month has been a joke for me. sack after sack of beasters sold as headies. i dont care if your friend grew it in his basement and spent every last minute of his life on it because he probably didnt cure it right and it probably wont get me high! anyone else seeing a lot of homegrown "headies" that just aren't that great?!



toggletoggle post by cav nli at Sep 14,2010 5:33pm
as far as vapes go. i feel like its kind of a novelty. when i first got mine i used it every day but now i got months without even touching it. its cool to have though and you can definitely get them on ebay for like 40 bucks.



toggletoggle post by Fuck Logging In at Sep 15,2010 2:40am
I have a vaporbros I bought form Hail_The-Leaf. I have no complaints.



toggletoggle post by MassOfTwoSlits nli at Sep 15,2010 8:27am
vapes at amazing in weymouth - 80 bucks



toggletoggle post by hauptpflucker   at Sep 15,2010 10:09am
I have a vapomatic deluxe from Vapir. I swear by the brand, it's much more cost effective than the volcano but uses similar technology. My only suggestion is save half the price of the "delux" and get the Vapir 1, it's basically the same thing in a smaller package with less control over fan speed.



toggletoggle post by sever at Sep 15,2010 11:44am
ArrowHeadNLI said[orig][quote]
So you get a lot more mileage out of your bud with a vaporizer, or just more potent? Or is it just a healthier way to do things?


Cannabanoids vaporize at different temperatures. By heating the vape to the correct temperature, you can essentially consume ALL of the THC contained within your bowl pack, and get very little of the unwanted cannabanoids and chemicals (such as CBD). This not only makes it insanely more potent than lighting your buds on fire (THC that is consumed by fire is destroyed), but much healthier as well. All in all, your vapes pay for themselves in a matter of weeks.



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