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returntothepit >> discuss >> best CD to FLAC ripper with Tagging and other options so... by the_reverend on Jul 19,2010 10:34pm
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toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 19,2010 10:34pm
please, I've never ripped .flacs and I have to rip about 10,000 CDs to FLAC before the end of the summer.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Jul 19,2010 10:39pm edited Jul 19,2010 10:40pm
I use COWON JetAudio


http://www.jetaudio.com/download/



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 19,2010 10:45pm
what does it use for the ID tag look up? does it find most things?



toggletoggle post by zenerik nli at Jul 19,2010 11:02pm
Lossless is the way to go. Sadly, I'm not sure what a good program for Windows would be, but I have a really nice one on OS X...



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 19,2010 11:07pm
the L in flac stands for lossless.



toggletoggle post by zenerik nli at Jul 19,2010 11:09pm
Yes sir. That I know. XLD is the main one I use on OS X. Maybe there is something similar on Windows? I'm too lazy to search on Google. It provides all sorts of custom options and came up with tags for 99% of the time. XLD matches your rip to a database to make sure it is bit perfect and makes logs of your rips so you know if there are any errors.



toggletoggle post by sinistas   at Jul 19,2010 11:50pm
EAC is what Waffles recommends.

http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/



toggletoggle post by HTR   at Jul 19,2010 11:52pm
Rhythm Box is pretty good, and free.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 20,2010 12:04am
idk what waffles is but EAC is still a beta.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 20,2010 12:14am
I like that JET. what encoding level do you use? 1-8?



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Jul 20,2010 8:01am
I usually use 5. The higher you go, the smaller the file size. I find that the difference between 5 and 8 is minimal in saving space and anything after 5 rapes your CPU.

I think it's pulled in most of the info from a database on CDs, but I admittedly don't rip CDs all that often. So when something doesn't bring in the info, it's not a big deal to me to manually put it in. So, I guess see if you keep liking it.



toggletoggle post by sinistas   at Jul 20,2010 8:38am
Waffles is an invite-only music torrent site. They're big on FLAC.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 20,2010 9:05am edited Jul 20,2010 9:05am
EAC is just like audio grabber. It basically is audio grabber. I used to use that years ago when FLACs were basically "why would anyone want to store that much data". JET is a bit more polished. It also looks like I could do I'm going to try to install JET on this computer and start ripping. a couple things I want
1) covers
2) flac/mp3 ripping at the same time
3) advanced tagging so they all say "metal room" or something like that.

I'm doing this to preserve my metal CDs and to test out this: http://www.rivendellaudio.org/



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 20,2010 9:24am
I'm going to try 8 and see if my PC can handle it. This is a quadcore machine so...



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 20,2010 9:59am
OK, ripping FLACs set to 8 on my quadcore machine takes about 6% of my CPU and takes about 4 minutes per CD. I could easily hook up a couple drives and rip a bunch of CDs at once.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Jul 20,2010 10:05am
I like this thread.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 20,2010 10:10am
ok, it just ripped AN in 1 minute and transferred it across my network.

I also bought one of these
http://www.blacklight.com/items/BLWPEN
to mark CDs as I do them.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 20,2010 10:12am
5 albums = 1GB



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jul 20,2010 10:13am
Only oggs are real.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Jul 20,2010 10:15am
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
OK, ripping FLACs set to 8 on my quadcore machine takes about 6% of my CPU and takes about 4 minutes per CD. I could easily hook up a couple drives and rip a bunch of CDs at once.


awesome



toggletoggle post by Pires at Jul 20,2010 10:20am
arktouros said[orig][quote]
I like this thread.


I have no idea what the fuck anyone is talking about in this thread.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Jul 20,2010 10:21am edited Jul 20,2010 10:22am
Pires said[orig][quote]
arktouros said[orig][quote]
I like this thread.


I have no idea what the fuck anyone is talking about in this thread.


lossless audio files.

they sound way more better than mp3s


guessing the radio station doesn't want to have the physical space dominated by CDs anymore and are going with a lossless database. smart cookies.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 20,2010 10:34am
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Only oggs are real.
FLAC's are OGG, just the lossless format.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 20,2010 10:41am
ok... now I'm only getting 1.8X



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 20,2010 10:44am
I would also love to get a wave signature of each FLAC too. that would rule.



toggletoggle post by zenerik nli at Jul 20,2010 10:47am
brian_dc said[orig][quote]
Pires said[orig][quote]
arktouros said[orig][quote]
I like this thread.


I have no idea what the fuck anyone is talking about in this thread.


lossless audio files.

they sound way more better than mp3s


guessing the radio station doesn't want to have the physical space dominated by CDs anymore and are going with a lossless database. smart cookies.

Lossless only sound better than mp3s if you have a good ear and the right equipment. Generally, most people can't really hear the difference between a 256 kbps+ mp3 and lossless. But below 192 kbps there is a huge difference even on mediocre setups.

At the same time, it's always nice to have lossless just because it's lossless. You're losing zero data from the original source.



toggletoggle post by zenerik nli at Jul 20,2010 10:50am
Well, I take that back. A lot of times you are still losing something from the original source. If it's analog, you're losing some info because digital waves are like connect the dots and the analog waves are constant. And a lot of digital recordings are initially done above standard CD quality. Again, it's hard for most people to tell the difference anyway...



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 20,2010 10:55am
zenerik%20nli said[orig][quote]
Lossless only sound better than mp3s if you have a good ear and the right equipment.
OR you are converting between different encoding formats. You can get aliased nodes if you aren't careful and don't use the right encoding or if encoding scheme's are different. I'm going from across a bunch of lines in a signal change.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 20,2010 10:57am
oh and it was jitter correction that was slowing it down.



toggletoggle post by zenerik nli at Jul 20,2010 10:59am
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
zenerik%20nli said[orig][quote]
Lossless only sound better than mp3s if you have a good ear and the right equipment.
OR you are converting between different encoding formats. You can get aliased nodes if you aren't careful and don't use the right encoding or if encoding scheme's are different. I'm going from across a bunch of lines in a signal change.

Interesting. I do not doubt that.

I have never dealt with digital audio files for radio or anything other than listening in my room or on my mp3 player.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 20,2010 11:10am
good thing is that it's mostly 44KHz 16-bit @ 96Kbps



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 20,2010 12:00pm
so far, 2 CDs weren't found and 1 CD wouldn't read. the is also tons times that tracks fail and I have to start them over again.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 22,2010 12:11am
I have a pile of CDs that didn't record. If I had 4 computers or maybe just 4 CD-ROMS, I would be like an octopus and rip amost as fast as I can change discs. My Desktop continuously failes with a -900 error and I have to re-rip the track and it's fine. annoying. My Laptop is a little slower, but has no errors.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 23,2010 10:49pm
I have 3 computers ripping right now and I basically only have a minute's rest before swapping them. I switched from a 52X IDE to 48X USB drive on my desktop and now Im getting 17x instead of 7x and none of those -900 errors.



toggletoggle post by quintessence  at Jul 24,2010 4:29am
I did a similar project years ago using EAC. Man that was fucking boring as shit.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 25,2010 11:40pm
388 albums, 2410 files, 66GB and I'm almost finished the A's.
I need to make up another quadcore to do this.
it takes about 2-3 minutes to flac each CD with my quadcore.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 27,2010 10:29am
so... after getting through the A's... I realized that I'm missing 2 bits of information.
1) Record Label
2) date released.
http://easytag.sourceforge.net/
I'm going to add it into the A's and I'm adding it into the B's now as I add them to the collection.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Jul 27,2010 10:30am
you are a patient man.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 27,2010 10:43am
man... I can't get easytag to work in windows.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Nov 12,2010 5:08pm
ok, I said FUCK YOU to jetaudio and eac after finding skips and might go through all my CDs again... I'm trying out dbPowerAmp and building a CD-R tower with 5-6 of these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...cribe_burner-_-27-136-178-_-Product

I already have 2 of those. and 2 other drives. Good thing is that I can use them to burn CDs to play on RTTP too.



toggletoggle post by arkquimanthorn at Nov 12,2010 5:12pm
Ya, lossless rips always bring the worst out of CD scratches.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Nov 12,2010 5:17pm
dbpoweramp does up to 30 different checks including hashes from other people's rips.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Nov 16,2010 11:44am
still, itunes finds things correctly where dbpoweramp does not.



toggletoggle post by sethrich   at Nov 16,2010 1:48pm
Trader's Little Helper - http://tlh.easytree.org/

- Encoding of wav files to ape, flac, shn and mp3 format
- Re-encoding of flac files
- Decoding of ape, flac, mkw, shn, mp2 and mp3 files to wav format
- Direct conversion of ape, flac, mkw and shn files to flac or mp3 format
- Test of audio files encoded in ape, flac, shn and mkw format
- Verification of cfp, ffp, md5, sfv and st5 checksum files
- Creation of cfp, ffp, md5, sfv and st5 checksum files
- Display of audio file properties (ape, flac, shn, mkw and wav files)
- Fixing of sector boundary errors that come with ape, flac, shn, mkw, wav and mp3 files
- Removal of extra RIFF chunks in audio files
- Rewriting of WAVE headers to canonical format
- Creation of skt files for non-seekable shn files
- Test of wav files for mp3 source
- Creation of torrent files
- Display of the information encoded in torrent files
- Hashing of torrent files against local filesets or files
- Drag & Drop functionality for all supported file types
- Integration into Windows Explorer
- Check for update function



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Nov 16,2010 1:52pm
I'll use that to convert the flac to mp3s afterwards if it will keep meta data.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 1,2011 10:49am
ok, I started t his up again. I got 6 external CD-Roms now to do it with one computer. I'm using dBpoweramp starting all over from scratch. dBpoweramp rips each track like 16 times, hashing and comparing the results to each other and other tags that other people have gotten flacing the same file. it also scrapes 5+ different online places for tracks/covers. I'm liking it so far. With 6 drives in one computer, I can do as much as I did with 4 computers.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 15,2011 1:34am
I was ripping a few hundred a day, but then my computer started rebooting randomly.

[IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[IFCOMP]Various Artists[][IF!COMP][artist][][]\[album]\[artist] - [album] - [track]. [title]




toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Mar 15,2011 8:26am
I don't even use Jetaudio anymore now that I realized that Winamp monitors folders and has .flac plug-ins.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 16,2011 8:22am
my jetaudio rips sucked cause they have errors.
yesterday, I had 2 computers set up. one of them kept ripping tracks and calling then un-accurate. the reason is:
http://www.dbpoweramp.com/cd-ripper-setup-guide.htm
I was clicking the button beside the options button and not the options button itself. so I was doing burst rips with out secure! arg! It still compares to the online accurip thing so the CDs "should be" fine. And if some track said that it wasn't accurate, I would re-rip the inaccurate tracks or rip it on my other machine. Still, that pissed me off. I wish my desktop would stop rebooting. I'm thinking of just buying the fastest computer I can and ditching my frankenstein machine.



toggletoggle post by duff at Mar 16,2011 10:42pm
I use this to help tag anything DBpoweramp can't find

http://www.mp3tag.de/en/




toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 16,2011 11:00pm
that app looks awesome.
I started writing something exactly like that years ago, but never finished it.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 16,2011 11:47pm
A-J = about 1800 records (have to redo)
K-O is about 1200 records



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 30,2011 12:09am
just ripped upsidedown cross.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 4,2011 9:54am
getting so close to being done with this.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 6,2012 1:38pm
ok, jet sucked if you didn't know. DBpoweramp all the way. One problem is that itunes doesn't support flac. So I wrote this little script to have both FLAC and MP3 files. This will look for FLAC files and then generate a .mp3
I'm going to use this on my .wma, etc... to that clutter up my .mp3 directories.

#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use warnings;
use Cwd;

my $convertLocation = "C:/Program Files (x86)/Illustrate/dBpoweramp/CoreConverter.exe";
my $location = getcwd; #root directory
my $n = 0;
readsub($location);
print "Found $n file(s)!\n"; #print the total number of files you found
exit;

sub readsub {
my ($file_t) = @_;
if (-f $file_t) { #if its a file
$n++; #the total number of files
print $file_t."\n";
#if ends with .flac, look for .mp3. If no .mp3, create
#if ends with .wma, look for .mp3. If no .mp3, create
#if ends with .mpa, look for .mp3. If no .mp3, create
if($file_t =~ m/\.flac$/)
{
print "Converting:".$file_t,"\n";
my $outfilename = $file_t;
$outfilename =~ s/\.flac$/\.mp3/g;
if (-e $outfilename)
{
print "Already Exists:".$outfilename,"\n";
}
else
{
system ("\"$convertLocation\" -infile=\"$file_t\" -outfile=\"$outfilename\" -convert_to=\"mp3 (Lame)\" -V 2") or print STDERR "couldn't exec foo: $!";
}
}
else
{
print "Skipping:".$file_t,"\n";
}
}
if (-d $file_t) { #if its a directory
opendir(AA,$file_t) || return;
my @list = readdir(AA);
closedir (AA);
my $file_to_act;
foreach $file_to_act (sort @list) {
if ($file_to_act =~ /^\.|\.$/) { next; }
else { readsub("$file_t/$file_to_act"); }
}
}
}





toggletoggle post by duff at Jan 7,2012 9:05am
I need to figure out what that script stuff is. That exactly what I want to be able to do with my FLAC files. What are you playing you FLAC files on? Just your computer or is it hooked up to your home stereo?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 22,2013 12:30pm
I'm playing them on a radio station.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 22,2013 12:32pm
I started digitizing the entire general section of my radio station so that we are ready for our renovations. I've been digitizing non-stop since mid-decemeber and I've got 722GB so far.
Right now I'm on BIG. oof.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 28,2014 3:56pm
So many FLACs so far... SO MANY TB



toggletoggle post by conservationist  at Jan 28,2014 5:17pm
<3 Perl



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 12,2016 11:24am
over 6 years later... and I'm getting so close to the end.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at Sep 12,2016 12:22pm
still haven't found anything better than dbpoweramp



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 12,2016 1:04pm
nope



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 12,2016 1:05pm
I can do about 35-75GB of FLACs a day,



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Nov 18,2016 10:18am
getting so close to the first part of my project being done. Only 1 large box left...



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