http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqM4tKPDlR8

i refuse to believe our government is that ignorant about the activities of mercenary groups they support.

hahahahahaha
You're a pussy. Blackwater consists of the most fucking elite of elite (i.e. ex-SEALs, Delta Force, etc..) , you're probably just pissed that you lack the ball bag to be what they are.
"OMFG - We're at war - WE ARE FUCKING KILLING PEOPLE! - this, is a travesty! PEOPLE ARE DYING!"
It is what it is -war is war - people get killed. Let's allow guys who make 150k to do the dirty work other than U.S. Army/Marine privates who get payed less than 20k. Fuck, the gayness is almost rubbing off, I need to go look at pictures of naked chicks.....

I WILL RESPOND WITH HOMOPHOBIA!


WAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRR! PORRRRRRRNNNN!

the privatization issue is worth mentioning though. Interesting that they would bother to let this extend to military. I always thought the whole point of privatizing normally government funded sectors was a way to afford more military spending. I mean, let's face it, that's where the tax dollars really go.

I always chuckle when people complain about welfare and the $15-40 it adds to the average citizen's taxes when so much goes to the military budget. Giggle!

hungtableed said:

And you're not entirely right. I mean, aren't many of the "elite of the elite" part of Israeli military factions? I'm sure many of the Swiss Guard could give Blackwater operatives a run for their money. As far as privatized military goes, there are thousands of operations running with crack members, American or not.

And the whole "gay" is bad thing makes you sound like an asshole. Testicular fortitude is not the measure of a man. Neither is their sexuality. In fact, I hope I have a gay son, who defeats your kid in the spelling bee, fucking dunks on him, finds someone who will truly love and honor him and they have financial success, and then in a truly crazy turn of events, gets into a confrontation with your kid and settles it non-violently. I'd shit a kitten.

Hahahahahaha....

Produced by somebody (jew *felson* jew) with a hyphenated name, interviewing a jew representative. I'm sure that this is 100% factual.

If Blackwater is so secretive, how do these morons know anything? Would any truly "secretive" force employ 2300 people?

C'mon media sheep.....let's start thinking before we just believe what some lefty with a hyphenated name says.

The Marine Corps. is 175,000 strong and you hear less about them than you do "Blackwater"...dun dun duuuun!!!

So how true do you think that this puke is? Cmon......

insert metal gear solid reference here

! hmm?

(thats the guard when you make a noise)

i'm on drugs

Murph said:

oh yeah? well I hope your gay son gets aids.

I wish a gay son on everyone here.

I just noticed the title of this thread. Which is ironic because I am pretty fucked up right now.

YEAH BREWDOGGIES

Hoser said:

everyone with a hyphenated name should be dead.

davefromthegrave said:

Those will have to be hypothetical AIDS, because he's a hypothetical person.
And I would never wish AIDS on any of your children, real or imagined for use in a discussion.

i really could give a shit less what blackwater does in iraq. we're already there so let them go kill people. i did however cringe a bit when he talked about them being deployed in new orleans after katrina. if there is any truth to this guy's report that he spoke with them and that they said the mission was that they were put there to confront and apprehend criminals, that's scary. i don't like at all the fact that there would be a corporate private company army in an american city enforcing law.

and anyone that has payed attention (other than just watching the evening news) to what was going on in iraq since we went back in, should know all about blackwater and what they do there.

I would like to take this opportunity to wish smokin hot bisexual daughters on ALL of you... So I can abscond with them to mine grand seraglio and ravish them like a deranged sultan when I am 46 and creepy and they are 18.

Broads who lick box and make out are cool in my book. Fags who want to stick their dick in another boys ass are fucking gay.
It so wrong, and you can't deny it no matter what. What other species practices homosexuality? See, it's just naturally wrong and they are just sick perverts.

BTW; I love how in the video the guy (in reference to Blackwater in New Orleans) says that they "were carrying sub-machineguns" - How come he didn't get his panties in a twist over the National Guardsmen who were carrying M4 and M16 assault rifles? - This guy just wanted to cry from a one sided standpoint about contract military men. And with that said, people who see combat are more often than not apolitical - this garbage about them being run by a right wing religious fanatic carries no water what so ever in regards to who they are as individuals. These are all guys who left the service and was like "wow, I could be getting paid 10x the amount from Blackwater to go do the same shit I just did for 18 months as an infantryman/marine"

hungtableed said:



wow...there are no words...
but that will probably be the most ignorant thing i'll see of read today

I was obviously only kidding about lesbos being ok in my book and fags not. It's all wrong, naturally and inherently wrong and those who break that are just sick perverts - like people who get off by looking at/doing things with little kids.

*or

hungtableed said:


you just likened people who have consentual sex out of love with people of the same sex, to people who forcefully or persuasively commit sexual acts with CHILDREN

No I didn't, what I said is that fags are perverts who only bang the same sex because they get off by it. Just like pedos who are perverts - they get off by doing shit with kids and not people of the same age.
You're going to say that all homo acts are out of love? How do you think AIDS gets spread around their community so damn fast? Because they fuck anything thats willing to fuck them. They are perverts. This kid who grew up on my street ended up being a fag and ever time I see him he is with a different dude - my conlcusion: He is just a sick pervert, he don't fuck out of love - he does it cause he is sicko. Trust me on this one, I make fun of him w/jokes like "shit...I smell vaseline; Hutch, did you fart?"

hungtableed said:

then by your logic straight people are perverts too? Because they fuck what they're attracted to and get off on? Or, if someone gets off on something that you dont, that makes them a pervert? Do you always have sex out of love? I'm just tryin to wrap my head around your logic. A LOT of holes.

People that whore themselves out are perverts too - who ever said I fuck tons of broads? I don't, and people that do are fucking disease factories and they deserve to be as they are plagued by that shit because or their sick perversion. I've been with the same girl for almost 8 years so therefor she is not by any stretch of the means "just a fuck" that I chase around because I can't keep my dick in my pants.

respectable
i just dont care for people who think all homosexuals are sex chasing, diseased ridden perverts. Most of the homos i know have steady, loving relationships. It seems more and more to me like the hetero's are the ones who pull more stupid shit with sex. I lump myself into that category as well. Regardless of your sexual orientation, you're gonna get people who are trashy about sex and people who are respectable.

hungtableed said:

*ahem*

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html

I stand corrected, but, notice that throughout the article the gay animal behavior is described as "baffling". My logic is that (and I know I've said this here before) Girls have innies and Guys have outies for a reason - to put one in the other. A species would never survive if all the girls starting licking each other's boxes and all the guys starting putting their outie inside each other's exit holes. Once a females can reproduce with just females or males reproduce with just males, then maybe - just maybe - I'll come to your side. Until then, I see it as inherently wrong and your opinion won't convince me any more than mine will yours.

How many gay people do you even actually know? The number of gay people is far, far less than the number of people who will actually have sex with the opposite gender to reproduce. Do you think about reproduction every time you have sex, or do you just do it because you like it? Probably the latter. I'm sure gay people all fall into that same category as well. What does any of this even have to do with your life anyway? If you're not gay, then who the hell cares? It's not like gay people are making you watch them fuck each other. Get a grip.

Louis CK has a few awesome bits about people giving too much fo a shit about gay people and what they do

brian_dc said:

The thread might as well have stopped after this post. END OF THREAD.

hungtableed said:
How can it be inherently and naturally wrong if it is inherent and natural? I have never understood anyone who has tried to argue that anyone chooses to be gay. If you do believe that, then whatever, there's nothing else I can really say to you, but how did you come to this conclusion?


mOe said:
"Wow, I'm really gay, I am Faggotor! No one is gayer than me!"
"Two people can't get married because you don't want to talk to your ugly child for fucking five minutes? Who fucking cares about your shitty kid, he's probably a faggot anyway."

HAHAHA
"People are gay.....DAMMIT!"

"Some guy's getting fuckin the ass right now, I know it!"

"i could understand if you're trying to eat a bowl of cereal one morinng and as soon as you're about to eat a spoon two gay guys touch dicks right in front of your face"

"Hey, two guys are blowing each other right on my fucking lawn! I need to mow there!"

"I GOTTA MOW AROUND YOU FAGGOTS EVERY SUNDAY, I'M SICK OF THIS!"

HAHAHAHA

Ok I'm done now.

deadlikemurf said:

i agree with this statment. i mean we've been using private contract groups in the darfur regions and all over africa for a long time now. This is nothing new. i say fuck it if these people wanna go let them fucking go and fight

hungtableed said:

AIDS spread throughout the Gay male community not really due to promiscuity, but because anal sex can tear muscle and bleed and therefore the transfer of fluids is more direct.

Its fucking science. Literally.

They are people who can choose to be promiscuous or choose to be in committed relationships or celibate. They deserve basic human rights and all American freedoms (those that are Americans) and for someone with your political agenda about personal freedoms, you sure step on a lot of others. They are fucking people, get over it and yourself.

C'est MOI.

anonymous said:

If they were sticking vagina, the AIDS would get spread just as easy. It spreads like wild fire in the fag community because they'll fuck anyone who'll wink at them, thus, their out of control promiscuity spreads disease. It's a known fact that AIDS is a major problem in the queer community. And what political agenda are you talking about? I never said shit about queers not deserving basic human rights, you're just jumping the gun here and getting your panties in a twist because you read something that offended you. I never said that dudes shouldn't be barred by the law to put their dick in another boys ass if that's what floats their boat - if you like it, good for you. What I said is that I, personally, think it is wrong and un-natural. I never even said that they weren't human, I just think what they do is un-natural and wrong. Come on now, are you really trying to say that dicks were meant to go in ass holes?
BTW, my original queer remark was just a joke then it snowballed because people started getting offended because - oh my god - I said something homophobic! Jeez, for people that so strongly believe in personal freedoms, what's with the trampling of one's freedom of speech?

hungtableed said:


Actually, my friend, you equated homosexuality with pedophilia, and since pedophilia is a crime, you purported homosexuality to be a crime or on the same level on a crime. That would be saying they should be denied or persecuted for that particular choice, and that is disregard for someone's basic human and in this country, American right.

I honor free speech as much as anyone. But I hold people to actual remember and understand what the fuck they say.

hungtableed said:
I'll reiterate; how did you come to this conclusion?

Murph said:

I didn't equate them. It's called a simile.
You obviously lack reading comprehension skills. I said that fags are just perverts who get off by fucking people of the same sex. Just like (refer to http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=simile ) pedos who are perverts that get off by fucking/touching kids. I called them both perverts, I never equated boys fucking boys with old dudes touching kids. Besides, I'd estimate that 80% of pedophilia as being of the homosexual persuasion - I read the news and it's an all too common story I see often.

ZJD said:

Because asses are for shitting out of - not so dudes who have a twisted perversion have a hole to put their dick in.

there's a lot of gay love going around here, you guys should make out.

hungtableed said:

And mouths are for eating and talking, right? How about lady-butt?

Men don't fuck vaginas just because that's "what they're for," but because they're predominantly attracted to women, want to fuck something, and enjoy the vajay. Certainly men, the ones with dicks, are mostly attracted to women, the ones with vaginas, for a reason, but if desire is neccessary, then doesn't that mean a man's desire for man-butt is as natural as another's for poonaner?

I wouldn't fuck my old lady's ass even if she asked for it. I'd respond with something like "ugggghh, there's a perfectly good vagina less than 2 inches away- I'm going for the hole that's wet.
Like I said hours ago here: It's quite obvious that your opinion is going to have as much impact in changing mine as my opinion will have changing yours. Just like we all have assholes (that are, IMHO, meant for shitting out of only) we all got opinions. How about we agree that we disagree. Arguing about this is obviously going no where, really fast. Geez, that's the greatest liberty Americans are endowed with. Which is that at the end of the day we can believe what we want even though other people will be willing to fight tooth and nail to convince you that you're wrong.

hungtableed said:


I forgot how smart you are. Maybe you should look up the definition of pervert. A perversion is something not socially acceptable, i.e. something that is against what society deems OK. Therefore, pretty much against societal law.

Therefore, young scholar, you equated them as both being outside of social acceptance. It's called a conditional statement, where you do not equate two things on their individual merit, but in the way they are viewed against each other, within the same criterion.

And your estimate, of 80% is not even close.

And if I was not able to understand simile, then you also misuse the word like, as LIKE is used to compare two things in a SIMILAR fashion, hence SIMILE. First you say you did not equate the two, then used a self-purported figure to assert their similarity, but still maintain you were not placing homosexuality and pedophilia as like "perversions."

You just might be an idiot wrapped in a moron.

hungtableed said:

If you want to end it then it will end and I'm sure I won't change your mind and know you won't change mine, but I'd like to continue this conversation until you at least answer my questions.

What about the mouth? Is that "for" sucking?
Do you think the desire for men itself is not naturally found in a gay man/do you think it's a choice?
If you are down with blowjobs, then what about gay dudes that just have oral sex (they do exist)?

hungtableed said:

So, gay Americans should have a voice and be able to argue with the same freedom from fear for that voice?

When that happens, then debate them. But having a government-endorsement that homosexuals are "different" and not entitled to all the same rights as hetero-mericans you have an American hand way stronger than theirs.

ok, so it my example of fags/pedos was a metaphor. Sue me. I'm sorry that my views on fags offended your vehement pro-gay stance.
Wasn't this thread about Blackwater? It was and then I made a joke relating one's pacifistic viewpoint as "gay". Next thing you know, all the pro-homos came out in venomous opposition to my use of the word because it is obvious that they were just so damn offended by it. Next time I'm out drinking and a friend of mine is so fucking hammered he says "man, I'm retarded" I gonna get all pissy and say "what do you got against mentally challenged people - they're people too!" Political Correctness is gay.

Murph said:
where exactly did say I support a "government-endorsement that homosexuals are "different" " - I expressed my opinion on fags. I never said a damned thing about American homos not deserving the same rights as heteros- you my friend are jumping to conclusions. I don't think anyone who is a citizen of this country should be barred any right that is enjoyed by everyone else.

I am more inclined to believe that homosexuality is a perversion (I'm sorry, for the pc mental masturbators - a sexual preference) that was a choice and not a natural tendency. Science has proven, thus far, that queers are no different than straight people - they're just sexually attracted to the same sex.

hungtableed said:

Okay. So...

How did you come to this conclusion?

Also, if it's any consolation, I didn't read enough of the thread to see how this gay stuff started and don't care about political correctness.

It's my opinion - I can't help it, it's just how I see things. Just like my political beliefs, it's what I believe. I was never convinced by anyone/anything, it's just how I see shit. I'm sure you have your own beliefs where many of which were never shaped by any outside force, it's just how you see it.

Yeah, but I have a reason. I can explain why I believe things. I'm not saying every belief has to be grounded in fact or logic, but as for this one in particular, I figured you'd have a better one than "just 'cause," and I'm guessing you do.

hungtableed said:

No, I'm just stating fact. Gay people don't have the same rights as heterosexuals. I used the term "government-endorsement" not to mean you personally endorse their treatment nor that you were relying on that for your argument, but that it's a given fact. It just kind of sucks, because you have the right all day to assert your distaste for homosexuals or just their sexual being, but they are fighting not only the norm when they debate, but also a government standard telling them they are wrong. It is unfair.

And frankly, I don't hold anyone's beliefs against them. I just feel everyone should be on a fair playing field, and as we are not, its not fair. This was a thread about privatized military groups, but then you made it seem those opposed to it were "less of men" or "lacking testicular fortitude" and that meant gay because those opposing you were exuding a gayness that was "rubbing off on you." The whole thing was just a real juvenile slam to those who were curious and put off by Blackwater.

The Judeo-Christian religion is the sole creator of homophobia.

It's why Satanists are gay.

also



brian_dc said:

I was pretty certain that my gay remark was blatantly sarcastic - do you really think I immediately went to look up porn afterwards? Read around through even just the threads on the first page, I bet that you'll find a lot of sarcasm and juvenile criticism in regards to a number of issues here. I can't see how anyone that's sensitive to juvenile criticism and a stickler for political correctness could last more than 5 mins here.

I don't really think you went to go look up porn. I've been teaching various ages of kids and I just notice how people (especially kids) use homophobia as a crutch, even if they are joking. So I goofed on it.

I mean, it's just a comical outline of your first response.


I've actually just started reading a book called "Homophobia: A History" by Byrne Fone.


Here's a fun fact:
in 1999 (the time of the authorship of the aforementioned book) forty states still allowed known homosexuals to be summarily fired from their jobs, without cause.

Presumably, that means that there were not available the proper channels to call discrimination on the firing on the grounds of sexuality. I'm just in the foreword, maybe I'll get more info on stuff like that.

deadlikemurf said:

It is pretty common knowledge that blackwater is a government contracted military force operating in Iraq & elsewhere. It's not a secret that they're there, the problem is they shouldn't be there. Just like KBR/Halliburton shouldn't be there providing the military with food, water, laundry, fuel, & all the other shit that would normally be jobs of the military itself. KBR charges the U.S. military $28.00 per plate, to feed the troops. That adds up to $4,200,000 just to feed every soldier 1 meal! They've been there for 4yrs, do the math. These private contract companies are run by former pentagon & U.S. government big wigs. It's one big fuckin conflict of interest known as "The Military Industrial Complex". This is what U.S. war is all about. In Vietnam, it was Bell Hellicopter who cashed in on the cluster fuck. 6,000 Hellicopters were bought from Bell by the military during that war, at what price? I don't know, but it wasn't cheap. Bell Hellicopters ceo was a former pentagon based general. It's been happening since WW2.

That video is also the 4th different report I've seen of Blackwater operating in New Orleans after Katrina. That is very scary cause it bypasses the militarys inabillity to police it's own people. It's just too bad they didn't care enough to contract a private company, such as KBR/Halliburton to evacuate all the people who were trapped there for 5 fuckin days.

If this all sounds new & strange to people, they should go to Google Video & search for these things. Reality can't be found on tv anymore.

hungtableed said:

Yes you can, you're just a pussy and don't want to help it.

Torment and torture, that's all you've done
Beat on those "pussies", your idea of fun
Can't stand the sight of a naked guy
Your mindset's intolerable, you need to die

see see what i meant to say is all faggots are niggers, not all niggers are faggots

Lamp said:

It pretty obvious that you like it up the ass. I hope you and your fuck buddy get AIDS.

In all seriousness though, that statement from whatever ra-ra-posi-core song is contradictory. Telling someone they need to die because of the way they see shit seems like intolerance to me. And I never said I don't tolerate fags because I actually do, I just don't accept it.

It's no posi-core shit, it's just funny.

yea, well it really has to be the gayest lyrics ever written.

I'm sorry, I have to be more pc. I must refrain from using the word 'gay' and 'retarded' as well as others of the such out of context. I wouldn't want to offend anyone.

I wouldn't give half a fuck if you were being sarcastic using the word gay to describe something but whether you want to admit it or not, I don't think you are. I think you're seriously trying to make people feel worse about themselves by letting them know they're gay, and a couple other people already owned your ass up and down in this thread already so I guess I can just sit here and laugh knowing there's nothing you can do about it.

you know, we have the right to revolution if we feel the government has failed us. Just saying

Lamp said:

Who's the homo that I made feel worse about being gay? Hell, from what I'm gathering gay is something to proud of? Aren't you supposed to celebrate diversity? I smell a Fascistic/Communistic leaning here from this whole "having to do something about" how I view homos. If I don't agree with you all then I must be fucked up and I need some sort of re-education in sensitivity. I never even said I hated queers, I just said that I think - read that again - I think boys who bang other boys butts is wrong- and I stand by that regardless whether or not you think I was "owned up and down this thread".

This thread sucks.

blame the pc police who have already missed at least one a "gay" (or maybe it was "fag") remark today alone without stirring up a little nancy fit over a negative reference to queers. I guess I'm special and should be held to a higher standard.

Aren't you one of those "I don't agree with homosexuality" dudes? I think that paints the target on you over others who call things gay.

And I'm not defending anyone, just saying I think that was an easy attack angle for people with opposing political opinions on this board.

http://www.returntothepit.com/view.php?formid=39758

What about 'Mess' here - he said he hated fags. I've never even gone that far. I don't hate fags, I just don't agree with what they do.

I'm sorry, he didn't say he hated, he said he "don't like fags" - still, I didn't go that far.

I think it's just a matter of you posting more often, someone sees an angle to take with you, they're going to take it.

I don't agree with most of what you say, I'd still have a beer with you.

I don't think you should be getting nailed to the cross for using a term EVERYONE on this board uses, but I see why they'd pursue the angle. War dissent often gets the rebuke of "gay", "pussy", "pinko/liberal", "crybaby", etc. Which is dumb because disagreeing with the war doesn't make you gay or anti-American.

Unless you're HTL. ;)

The original point before this retarded thread took off was that making a remark about "gay" following government dissent is common and annoying to people that hear it all the time.

pam said:

Point taken. I guess I could have said:
"Fuck, the femininity is almost rubbing off...." and had the same effect. I only would feel bad about using gay where I did if mOe was gay. If he were, I wouldn't have said "the gayness is almost rubbing off". I might be an insensitive prick, but I wouldn't go as far as verbally assaulting someone who is gay no matter how I much I disagree with what they do. The only exception is this gay kid who grew up on my street, we all make fun of him and he thinks its funny because he has a sense of humor and knows we don't hate him for who he is.

I call all my gay friends fags. They are, they know it. It's all in the context I guess!

So, how about that Hee-Haw, eh? That was a pretty good show, right?

relating to the origin of the thread...


My buddy claims he just saw a Hummer with tinted windows and a Blackwater logo (complete with bearclaw) on the back window rollin through Auburn. Bad news?

FuckIsMySignature said:

Dude, Blackwater is only like 220K+/- I'd believe the idea of them having presence in Auburn (of all places) when I see it. If they were, then it's probably not that good of news. Either they are preparing to lock down our streets or there is some super top secret shit going down. If it were the latter, I'd hope they wouldn't roll around with their ad on the back window.

yeah thats what i was thinking... but he said the logo looked identical to that of the one on the video. Jack Bauer where are you?!

hungtableed said:


so after 8 years you havent slipped it into your womans pooper?

pshhh that ones goin nowhere

powerkok said:

in the japense one the say "TA-DAN-KA-DU-GA!"

GoatOfCatalyst said:

Ryan at 46

i love you dave (no homo)

he says that until he gets the crunk on. then he busts open his homo ass.

I haven't read most of this thread and haven'twatch the video so I have an opinion that matters. if we had a shadow army, why not just kill people around the world? assassinations!

the_reverend said:

i love watching bitches make out, fuck any faggot who doesn't.

jesus wanted us to watch hot females make out and touch eachother in naughty no no type places and ways.

rootbeer floats from wendy's are not good.