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:	post by Doomkid at 2011-03-14 15:42:13

ArrowHeadNLI said

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Given the amount of bullshit fights that break out in bars, I would posit that guns would cause more damage/loss of life since drunk people cannot be counted on for anything resembling reasonableness. Especially with particular people and their tendency towards aggressive behavior. Homo urbanus: go ahead and use some kind of non-lethal weapon instead.

Don't "Posit". Go find some facts. There's plenty of states already allowing conceal carry - find me some instances of people whipping out guns and killing each other in bars at an alarming rate.

Otherwise, it's pussy warry-wart rhetoric from someone completely uneducated on the subject. The same kind of pussy warry-wart rhetoric already tying up the vast majority of our political system. Maybe instead of talking about what they don't know, they could shut the hell up and spend time learning instead.

Meanwhile, conceal carry is NOT a license to shoot people. Pull the trigger, and deal with a potential lifetime of loss, legal troubles, and much much worse ramifications. People are going to break rules. Sometimes with lethal results. But the same is true of automobiles, a PRIVILEGE people treat like it's their RIGHT to drive as fast as they want, however they want. People will fight like hell to keep and defend this privilege to drive, but then turn around and criticize the lethal ramifications of a constitutionally given RIGHT to own a gun. RETARDED BACK ASSWARDS LIBERAL PUSSY CRAP, that's what I think of that.

Clearly you didn't bother to actually check on anything I wrote. I'd be happy to provide you with articles and studies showing that urban environments are stressful to humans. As for my positing, what the fuck is wrong with throwing out an idea? I didn't claim any facts, with the exception that drunk people are more likely to be aggressive and unreasonable, which I doubt you would contest.

I don't see how my suggesting people carrying weapons that have less potential to kill people based on a snap-judgement makes me a pussy. And there's no correlation to draw between people driving and carrying concealed weapons. People die in car accidents when cars fuck up and do not do what they are supposed to, people die from gunfire because the gun did exactly what it was designed to do. Regardless, my view on driving is that its become this sick perversion of American views on private property ("my car, I can do what I want, fuck everyone if I'm driving dangerously in a car which damages public health").

How about you me some examples of cities(above 100,000 people at least) where people are given blanket permission to carry concealed firearms. I'll happily change my view if presented with evidence.

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