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:	post by Dr. Sphincto at 2010-01-16 10:41:29

Pay to play i dont agree with. Bands that play big shows should get compensated by the venue somehow.

Oh and look at bands as Revocation, Ramming Speed, Ravage, Howl, Swashbuckle, and CNV, they never did the whole PTP thing and are on labels and Revocation has played all over the US and will be touring Europe and Japan in a few months

CSDO, youv'e been around since the late 80s you've never toured outside the US and don't even have a full length. Sure you've toured and opened up for some big acts but what do you have to show for it?

CSDO your music is fun and i respect you guys, but its funny that the only time I see you guys at shows other then the ones you play are shows where you were supposed to play but either dropped or cancelled, or shows where Dan Lilker is around and playing.

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