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:	post by Conservationist at 2009-06-02 22:09:13

ArilliusBM said

Conservationist said	[orig][quote]
It's sad, then, that Christians are such good guardians of culture and neighborhoods, and disaffected atheists such poor ones.

Society accepts this as the norm. Do you really think America would vote an Atheist president anytime soon?
Most religions teach good morals, values, and spiritual connectivity. Atheism itself does not teach those things as it has no "book" to go by, but a true atheist knows they don't need religion for good morals and values. Most of them, sadly, are quiet people who don't really raise a voice too much. We saw what happened last Christmas in Washington. Atheists made that sign stating "there are no gods, angels, etc." near the nativity scene. ( http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/12/05/atheists.christmas/index.html) Although the message is blunt (fuck, that would awesome to have one right now), it caused an uproar because of its negative message.

atheism will only affect the masses if it affects society in a positive manner. which it doesn't by any standard today.

Sad, blinded world we live in. i need a beer. or a couple.

All true, especially the blunt part.

However, on reflection regarding this issue, I think the solution is an old one --

http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/

Non-dualistic religion is a philosophy, and a good way to compile knowledge most people are not going to figure out themselves.

At this point, it could even occur under the auspices of Christianity, which quite honestly is fine with me -- the philosophy, not the nameplate, matters.

I like the idea of community centers, shared value, working toward the good things, and staying out of the trap of modern liberalism -- a paranoia that always must find an oppressor to blame, and never take responsibility for actions and discipline the mind.

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