I am a scientist; I see no evidence for absolute "wrong" or "right" in the universe. I do not see that as moral relativism, which appears to me to be making excuses from an absolute standard for favored groups.

What I am arguing here, in fact, has nothing to do with morality. It has to do with isolationism. They can run their country as they see fit, because this is the best way for all humans to get along. If horrors occur there, well, c'est la vie -- we have more than enough problems here we should be fixing.

I find it ironic that on a message board where most people will argue for individual independence that it is considered OK to violate another nation's independence. It seems to a mentality of trying to make the whole world safe by conquering anything that personally frightens us.

My advice for the West is simple:

(A) You are decaying from within. Fix yourselves.
(B) If what China does annoys you, stop buying cheap goods from China and let them wither on the vine.
(C) Recognize that life is, always has been, and always will be a struggle, presumably to eliminate the delusional and promote the realistic.

I am a scientist. I am a realist. This is the best theory I can give you.

This is the sort of idiotic "moral relativism" argument that allows murdering thugs to continue with their actions. The "all opinions are equally valid" crapola that is destroying western society. There are such things as "right" and "wrong". Adults having sex with children (and adults taking pictures of it) is *wrong* by ANY civilized standards. Murdering monks in the streets or shipping people off to "re-education camps" for protesting is *wrong*. Why should we be afraid of confronting it or speaking out about it?