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New site? Maybe some day. Username: SPAM Filter: re-type this (values are 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,A,B,C,D,E, or F) Message: UBB enabled. HTML disabled Spam Filtering enabledIcons: (click image to insert) Show All - pop Select Color orange orange-red crimson red firebrick dark red green limegreen teal silver sea-green deeppink tomato coral purple indigo burlywood sandy brown sienna chocolate FONTXXSmallXSmallSmallMediumLargeXLXXL :DG: A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z Char† ‡ ‰ ♠ ♣ ♥ ♦ ‾ ← ↑ → ↓ ™ – —   ¡ ¢ £ ¤ ¥ ¦ § ¨ © ª « ¬ ­ ® ¯ ° ± ² ³ ´ µ ¶ · ¸ ¹ º » ¼ ½ ¾ ¿ À Á Â Ã Ä Å Æ Ç È É Ê Ë Ì Í Î Ï Ð Ñ Ò Ó Ô Õ Ö × Ø Ù Ú Û Ü Ý Þ ß à á â ã ä å æ ç è é ê ë ì í î ï ð ñ ò ó ô õ ö ÷ ø ù ú û ü ý þ ÿ b i u  add: url  image  video(?) : post by y_ddraig_goch at 2008-05-13 19:47:59 Niccolai said [orig][quote] No way, if everyone raised their own livestock the world would be MUCH worse off. People complain about cars producting too much carbon dioxide, wait till everyone has cows and pigs. A cow would probably produce more greenhouse gasses in a week then an F350 super duty does in a year. everyone wouldn't have to raise their own, you could have one decent size farm support a small village...and the thing about the carbon dioxide being produced by animals... They already waste a lot of carbon dioxide shipping those animals and other food stuffs on average 15,000 miles...so what they waste in raising these animals and then shipping them off would be much more than if say every 300 people had a medium sized farm to live off of. Livestock isn't the way though, the focus needs to be on grains and vegetables. Meat should be consumed like once a day as a small portion, but americans seem to think meat is the main part of the meal and that it should be a huge 20 ounce steak every night...why we have such a poor health record. I say they start investing into rice if it can be grown here, we already dominate corn. I have some pretty radical ideas about the environment, for one there would be mandatory relocation of all citizens to well planned out megacities...this would reduce the waste caused by urban sprawl and leave large tracts of land open for farming and hopefully one day a larger hunting industry. I think all of the high rises in major cities should be covered in green roofs, maybe even vegetable garden roofs. the first step is local, everyone here should take pride in the stuff made here and buy it whenever possible, localizing industries that can be localized would help out the world, and our bank accounts, on a large scale.

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