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post by Anthony nli at 2005-12-18 23:22:47
the_taste_of_cigarettes said:
Anthony nli said:
the_taste_of_cigarettes said:
BornSoVile said:
Nick and Anthony, I've already done all that, I've even sent this information to his boss who gets him venues.
The boycott is quite simple in theory, those on the list don't play shows for him and don't attend his shows, no additional measures.
I have no intention of working with him but I also won't join your boycott if you don't have a goal. What, to not have him book shows anymore? I think it makes more sense to say "Look, we won't work with you until you change in these ways" rather than a flat out boycott with no goal.
the goal is to never let Kenny book again because he rips off bands. It's not about getting Kenny to change, it's about getting him to go the fuck away.
I wouldn't have expected something like that from you Anthony. You're a smart guy, I'm sure you understand how justice works more than "We don't like this guy, he can go fuck himself!! LEAVE OUR SOCIETY!"
True justice is about recognizing everyone's right and liberties and even if we disagree with them, we follow a due process that is blind. I think Kenny fucks everyone, so I agree with the public outrage, but the smarter move is to follow a system that allows Kenny to fuck himself over and not make him a victim of our negativity -- which is what he will become if we just tell him to fuck himself off the bat.
The better move is to boycott and make a list of demands. Then Kenny can choose his fate that way. If he then persists and the boycott if futile, more extreme methods are necessary.
In this way we do the right thing -- we don't let our emotions overcome the situation and we allows for justice to go to work. If Kenny does change (the boycott can also call for him to pay EVERY band that he fucked), then everyone wins.
you sound like you're being more idealistic than realistic. all the bands Kenny has fucked over will never get their back-pay from him, no matter what boycott terms are laid out.
He's a drain on the metal scene. It's unrealistic to rehabilitate him and make him change his ways or something, the smart thing to do is to make him go away. This isn't about due process and fairness, it's about blacklisting a sleazeball so that his bullshit doesn't get played out over and over again.
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