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[QUOTE="the_reverend:8297"]actually, if you look at the history of black metal, there is a history of pro-facism and national socialist movements, especially in the early scandinavian scene where most people's ideas of black metal came from: "[I]Thankfully, much of Scandinavian black metal’s apparently racist ideology has shown itself to be merely a gimmick in many cases - another string to the bow of ultimate naughtiness. In other instances, fascist tendencies have either been brushed aside with vehement claims of being ‘non-political’ (Mayhem), or neutered with a bizarre barrage of mis-information (Darkthrone).[/I]" http://www.live4metal.com/ultimate-extremism.htm Even today, there are Nationalist Black metal trends that are huge in Poland, Russian "[I]The ideological inclination of black metal remains disturbing to most and illegal in many countries. Yet it is not unique to black metal; as history shifted in the 1960s from a predominantly conservative society to a liberal society, thanks to the counterculture, and its effects were only felt with the children growing up in the 1980s, their response mirrors that of some who rejected the flower powery view of the politics and society. Among the thinkers and dissidents now coming back into favor are ecological fascists like Pentti Linkola and Theodore Kaczynski, as well as various stripes of nationalist and racial separatist leaders. (The Anti-Defamation League, a Jewish self-defense organization, claims that National Socialist and Neo-Nazi movements are increasing "worldwide.") It's hard to see what the future holds but this controversy remains in the forefront of not only black metal, but international politics, as shown by the amount of air time it is given by the entertainment industry, news media and American/U.N. politicians.[/I]" http://www.metal-reference.com/blackmetalart.html so... "[I]After all, they’re unlikely to achieve much political influence through their chosen medium of expression. Nor are they likely to come round your house for tea and scones. Perhaps one should just try to remember that black metal was always supposed to be nasty...[/I]" http://www.live4metal.com/ultimate-extremism.htm[/QUOTE]
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