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:	post by Josh_Martin at 2004-11-19 10:56:06

JayTUS said:

And yes, the fests are about making money. You can sit there and preach your integrity about the music all you want, but obviously, if you don't go, someone else is going to buy your ticket. It's not about what you want or what I want, it's about what everyone wants. It's a metal AND hardcore festival, meaning there's going to be both.

Yes, more European festivals fly bands over, but look at how big they are. If NEMHF was packing in 10,000-50,000 people they'd be flying bands in from all over the world too, but you'd also have bands like Metallica and Slipknot headlining with four or five stages scattered everywhere. Do you want that or do you like it on this smaller scale?

At the end of the day, this is a business, and people need to make their money, and that's all there is to it. TOURS are done for money. Albums are put out for money. This entire industry is driven by $$$$$. Sad but true, because no one can live without it. The point of having a business is not to break even after all the bills are paid, it's to make money. If tours aren't making money, bands go home and even break up, because they can't afford to do it. It sucks, but that's the way it is.

Baaaaah sheep. Now I see why you are such a pro-sports fan.

Tons of bands tour all the time and make no money at it. What the fuck are you talking about? There's more to the underground than Relapse and Metal Blade you know. Fuck business. 95% of the time Business = shitty, gay music.
The entire industry is not driven by money. I know tons of labels run by people who only care about putting out stuff they like.

But good for you, you like the wimpy, limp-wristed bands that play here every year. There are tons of kids like you. Enjoy yourself. You're lucky your taste in music makes it easy for you to see shows you like. Those of us not so fortunate will keep on bitching about having to pay $50 to see King Diamond (or whatever tour is getting ruined that year).

Also, you should really look into what they do in Europe. You are waaaay off base there. Go look at the lineup for the last few Wacken fests.

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