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:	post by the_taste_of_cigarettes at 2004-09-16 04:00:03

Here's some more useful advice:

On Band Order, Paying Bands:

The key to deciding who plays when is all about "positioning". If you blow it and put the "draw" bands (bands that bring larger amounts of people out, either from seniority, charisma, talent, what-have-you, but people like them) on early, no one will stay for the rest of the show, and chances are people that were planning on showing up late just won't bother coming. What can you do about this? Strategize.

-Put a local somewhere not entirely first and not entirely last. This way the local crowd that came to see their "friend's band" will stay to see them and will watch the other bands.

-Have at LEAST one local band (from the same state or general are is good, but from that town is BETTER) on the bill, if not more. This way people from the area will show up and have an incentive to support your show, AND you help out the community that is kind enough to let you do your show. You also can help people in that area see music they haven't seen before, which usually works to expand people's musical horizons.

-Headliners should be just that: Headliners. If they brought all the people, they are the headliner by default, whether they like it or not. Putting them on early will just clear a room faster than a fire.

-Touring bands, no matter how big, should really not headline unless necessary or unless you can prove they will be the biggest draw out of the bill, hands down. Sometimes you think I LOVE THIS BAND EVERYONE CAME TO SEE THEM!! But chances are, you're wrong, and the band from Illinois just played to 2 kids on their 6 month tour, which bites. Book a big big local band and put them above the headliner if at all possible, unless we're talking Dimmu Borgir or In Flames here.

When paying bands, take into account their expenses, not just in money but in time and energy. Did the band flyer like crazy for the show, making flyers out of pocket money? Did the band travel far to play just this one show? Did anyone come to see the local band, or did they just sit on their hands and make you do all the work?

-Even if you are mad at the band, be an honest dude and pay them their expenses. It's the least you can do and you would want the same for yourself. Only if the band completely breaches your verbal contract (starts a fire on purpose, beats up the audience, neglects to play, etc) can you go back on this, as they obviously were the first to make the bad move. But don't let the first person be you.

-Local bands usually get gas. Touring bands get at least gas/tolls/acceptable minor expenses + $20, if not a guarantee. Longer touring bands with overnight stays should be offered a place to crash and a meal, on you. You can take the extra money out as part of your cut of the door later on if you feel it's necessary.

-Your cut comes LAST. I repeat: YOUR CUT COMES LAST. Never take $200 and pay the touring band $5. You're not only a greedy jackass, no one will ever work with you again.

-Pay is up to you, but here's a method to start with if you can't figure one out on your own: Opener (should be a newer band, local) gets $5-20, Second band $30-40, Third band / Fourth band $100-150 depending on your door. The headliner(s) get priority over the other bands. It is not uncommon for the first band, the opener, to go unpaid and simply just be allowed to play for the sake of getting their name out. Openers should not ask for money, likewise touring bands should not be openers. Use this idea of a ratio if you need a basic plan, but coming up with your own system will help you develop your own show style and program. I always pay the touring bands, even out of pocket; I pay guarantees even if i have to borrow money.

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